皇室丑闻夜 Scoop(2024)英文字幕预览

1 00:00:12 [disorienting music builds slowly]
2 00:01:06 [cell phone vibrating]
3 00:01:32 [music trails off]
4 00:01:34 - [man grunts]- [vibrating stops]
5 00:01:35 [groans] Oh, it's Friday night.
6 00:01:39 [woman on phone]It's Saturday morning, honey.
7 00:01:42 Mm?
8 00:01:46 [grunting softly]
9 00:01:49 [breathes deeply]
10 00:01:55 Is it him?
11 00:01:56 [disjointed music plays]
12 00:02:10 [traffic noises overlap]
13 00:02:28 [trunk opens]
14 00:02:32 [siren wailing in distance]
15 00:02:37 News desk in London sayshe flew in from Heathrow last night.
16 00:02:40 My guy at the British consulatesaid he's not staying there, so...
17 00:02:49 [Jae] Those two on the door,they're Epstein's.
18 00:02:59 Those three guys,
19 00:03:01 I've seen them before.
20 00:03:02 Royal protection officers.If they're here--
21 00:03:05 Jae, the door.
22 00:03:08 [woman gasps] Guards.
23 00:03:11 [Jae] It's like she wasn't even there.
24 00:03:14 [camera clicks]
25 00:03:15 She must have been coming for years.
26 00:03:25 [woman] Christ.
27 00:03:26 She can't be more than 20 now.
28 00:03:30 Yeah.
29 00:03:37 [unsettling music builds]
30 00:03:51 [music trails off]
31 00:04:04 [faint indistinct chatter]
32 00:04:14 Here we go.
33 00:04:17 - [camera clicking]- It's Epstein.
34 00:04:22 - [woman] That's him. That's Andrew.- [Jae] Come on, turn around.
35 00:04:26 - What?- [woman groans]
36 00:04:28 [sighs]
37 00:04:29 - [grunts]- Go, go, go!
38 00:04:31 [tense music playing]
39 00:04:38 [clears throat]
40 00:04:44 [ambient bustling]
41 00:04:55 What a lovely day.
42 00:04:59 Oh, here we are.
43 00:05:15 Okay.
44 00:05:19 [camera clicking]
45 00:05:23 [sighs]
46 00:05:25 Uh... okay. Okay.
47 00:05:27 - This isn't gonna work.- [woman] What isn't?
48 00:05:31 Change of plan.
49 00:05:32 [music intensifies]
50 00:05:34 [woman] Jae, talk to me.
51 00:05:36 I'm improvising.
52 00:05:38 Bear with me.
53 00:05:39 Oh God.
54 00:05:53 [breathing heavily]
55 00:06:10 - Jae?- Not now.
56 00:06:19 [music settles]
57 00:06:22 [camera clicking]
58 00:06:30 [rapid camera clicks]
59 00:06:32 [gasping]
60 00:06:45 [disjointed music builds]
61 00:06:55 Jae, are you there?
62 00:06:57 [exhales, sighs]
63 00:06:59 I'm here. [panting]
64 00:07:02 ["Don't Rain on my Parade"by Barbara Streisand playing]
65 00:07:05 ♪ I gotta fly once ♪
66 00:07:08 ♪ I gotta try once ♪
67 00:07:10 ♪ Only can die once ♪
68 00:07:13 ♪ Right, sir? ♪
69 00:07:15 ♪ Ooh, life is juicy ♪
70 00:07:18 ♪ Juicy, and you see ♪
71 00:07:21 ♪ I gotta have my bite, sir ♪
72 00:07:28 ♪ Don't tell me not to flyI simply got to ♪
73 00:07:31 ♪ If someone takes a spill, it's me... ♪
74 00:07:33 [woman] Welcome, everybody.
75 00:07:36 I want to thank you allfor taking the time out of your lunch.
76 00:07:39 All of us at the BBC facesome incredible challenges.
77 00:07:45 ♪ Life's candyAnd the sun's a ball of butter... ♪
78 00:07:48 Morning, George.
79 00:07:49 ♪ Who told youYou're allowed to rain on my parade? ♪
80 00:07:56 The world is changing.
81 00:08:00 We need to change with it.
82 00:08:03 Every year the BBC faces moreand more competition in the news space,
83 00:08:09 and we must fight to remain relevant.
84 00:08:12 ♪ Eye on the target, and wham! ♪
85 00:08:16 ♪ One shot, one gunshot... ♪
86 00:08:18 - Has someone got my Nando's?- Oh, yeah.
87 00:08:21 ♪ Hey, world ♪
88 00:08:24 Bloody dog!
89 00:08:25 ♪ Here I am ♪
90 00:08:30 ♪ I'll march my band out ♪
91 00:08:35 ♪ I'll beat my drum ♪
92 00:08:38 Have we still got jobs, then?
93 00:08:40 [men chuckling]
94 00:08:42 Moody, stop begging! Come on.
95 00:08:44 Come here. Moody!
96 00:08:47 [newswoman] Never in my career
97 00:08:49 have I felt BBC Newsis under as much threat as it is today.
98 00:08:55 It is our duty to respond.
99 00:08:58 So it is with great sadness
100 00:09:01 that I have to announce... some job losses.
101 00:09:04 We currently estimate these job cuts
102 00:09:07 to be in the region of 450.
103 00:09:09 Here we go. Here we fucking go.
104 00:09:12 I know it is an enormous number.
105 00:09:15 How to improve your news-gathering.
106 00:09:19 Sack all the journalists.
107 00:09:21 [elevator dings]
108 00:09:24 These cuts will be acrossall news departments.
109 00:09:28 And across all shows.
110 00:09:32 Thank you very much.
111 00:09:34 - Okay. Uh, focus.- [song ends]
112 00:09:37 We've heard what she had to say,and unless I missed it,
113 00:09:39 she didn't say anythingabout not doing our show.
114 00:09:42 - Well, that was bleak.- Manage to catch it? Did you?
115 00:09:44 Nine hours and 13 minutes from now,
116 00:09:47 we're on air. With what?
117 00:09:49 [woman] Follow-up on British armssold to the Saudis being used in Yemen.
118 00:09:53 Yeah, we've covered that.What's the hook? Why today?
119 00:09:57 [man] Brexit. Fifteen rounds with Farage.One-on-one with Emily.
120 00:10:00 What would be our way in with Farage?Something new.
121 00:10:03 - [man] Frictionless borders.- Gets my juices going every time.
122 00:10:07 - I can get us Lupita for tonight.- The actress? Has she got a film out?
123 00:10:11 No. She wants to talk colorism.She's got a lot to say.
124 00:10:14 She's great. It's an exclusive.I think we should open with it.
125 00:10:18 Perfect for the second half.Can't open with her.
126 00:10:20 Agreed. They don't decideour running order.
127 00:10:22 We opened with Emma Thompson on Weinstein.They saw that. That's why they want us.
128 00:10:27 Weinstein was a news story that day.
129 00:10:28 Lupita may well be great,but it isn't news.
130 00:10:31 Second half.
131 00:10:33 So, Farage? Sam? Can you book him?
132 00:10:35 If you want Farage, Freddy,then it's simple.
133 00:10:37 You call up his PR.It's really not rocket science.
134 00:10:40 He'll be straight over.
135 00:10:41 [Freddy] That's your job.You're our booker.
136 00:10:43 And you do know we've just announceda few hundred redundancies.
137 00:10:46 Uh, okay, let's, uh--
138 00:10:47 The way I keep my job... Freddy, is bybooking the people we can't just call up.
139 00:10:52 The ones other people can't just get.
140 00:10:55 The job where you waltz in late,then spend the morning
141 00:10:57 working out where to gofor lunch with Piers Morgan?
142 00:10:59 Last in, first out.
143 00:11:00 - You were here at 6:00. On the pips. Yeah?- What?
144 00:11:04 You know what that does? That puts us16 hours behind the news cycle,
145 00:11:07 while I go out and find storiespeople actually care about.
146 00:11:12 [pensive music plays]
147 00:11:17 No, we love Lupita,and we desperately want her.
148 00:11:21 We'd like to close with herand go huge on socials.
149 00:11:24 You know,that's where this really cuts through.
150 00:11:31 Okay, that's great.
151 00:11:33 Great!
152 00:11:34 Thanks, you're a superstar. Okay, bye.
153 00:11:55 [clears throat]
154 00:12:11 [applause]
155 00:12:21 [clears throat]
156 00:12:23 It's not about me.
157 00:12:24 [light scattered laughter]
158 00:12:27 This is about
159 00:12:29 putting you wonderful young entrepreneurs
160 00:12:33 together with you
161 00:12:35 eh... slightly more mature investors.
162 00:12:37 [light laughter]
163 00:12:39 So that together with Pitch@Palace,
164 00:12:42 we can make magic happen.
165 00:12:45 Now, I know you're all desperateto get talking to them,
166 00:12:48 and they're desperateto listen to your ideas
167 00:12:51 and make them into a reality.
168 00:12:54 So the best thing for me to dois to get out of the way
169 00:12:56 and let you crack on.
170 00:12:59 Before I do...
171 00:13:01 [light laughter]
172 00:13:02 Don't tell my mum.
173 00:13:03 [laughter]
174 00:13:08 [guests clapping]
175 00:13:16 Maybe for the best no one came.
176 00:13:19 [Andrew] Ah, there we are.
177 00:13:22 All right, now say Pitch@Palace.
178 00:13:26 [all] Pitch@Palace!
179 00:13:29 Pitch@Palace!
180 00:13:31 Uh... I'd like it to be fair.
181 00:13:35 I mean, you don't mention Epstein
182 00:13:37 every time there's a storyabout Bill Clinton, do you?
183 00:13:39 [man] Bill Clintonisn't the Queen's favorite son.
184 00:13:43 [sighs] And if you had been here,then you would have seen for yourself
185 00:13:46 the... the wonderful job that...that he does with Pitch,
186 00:13:50 encouraging young entrepreneurs.
187 00:13:52 How young? These entrepreneurs?How young is young?
188 00:13:57 Piss off, Nick.
189 00:14:02 How do they get away with this?
190 00:14:04 That is why we have hired Jason.To manage this.
191 00:14:10 Time.
192 00:14:12 - It takes time.- Time? That photograph is nine years old.
193 00:14:20 - Sir, just--- No.
194 00:14:22 - No quick fix to a story like this.- So you people keep telling me.
195 00:14:27 [Jason] And you are 100% right,
196 00:14:31 Your Royal Highness.
197 00:14:33 About what?
198 00:14:36 You've been dealing withthis Epstein mess for nearly a decade.
199 00:14:40 You haven't seen himin that time, correct?
200 00:14:43 Uh... No. No, um...
201 00:14:45 No, absolutely. It was, um...
202 00:14:47 Uh... December 2010.
203 00:14:51 Then my instinct is...you haven't had the right strategy.
204 00:14:55 Epstein, and the whole...Playboy Prince thing,
205 00:14:58 should have been put to beda long time ago.
206 00:15:02 And I can make it go away.
207 00:15:05 But you have to let me control it.
208 00:15:08 Amanda?
209 00:15:11 Well, uh, Jason knows the press.
210 00:15:15 That's why we hired him.
211 00:15:16 Uh...
212 00:15:19 I think he can help us.
213 00:15:26 I've, uh, put togethera list of friendly journalists.
214 00:15:30 That's a... contradiction in terms, innit?
215 00:15:33 Invite them here, one by one, for tea.
216 00:15:37 They feel special.
217 00:15:39 You get to know each other,all off the record,
218 00:15:42 and slowly they realizeyou're a decent human being,
219 00:15:45 who is, by the way,
220 00:15:47 prepared to acknowledgeerrors of judgment.
221 00:15:51 [grunts]
222 00:15:53 Slowly.
223 00:15:55 It's always slowly. Always time.
224 00:15:59 I'm 60 next year.
225 00:16:01 And my mother, well...
226 00:16:05 none of us are getting any younger.
227 00:16:27 Jason's list of journalists.
228 00:16:31 [inhales deeply]
229 00:16:33 Mm...
230 00:16:35 What?
231 00:16:37 [sighs] Well, this...
232 00:16:39 This list. This... strategy.
233 00:16:43 We've been down this road before.
234 00:16:59 ["Don't Rain On My Parade"plays as ringtone]
235 00:17:06 - Hello?- [Amanda] Hello, Sam.
236 00:17:08 It's Amanda Thirskfrom the Duke of York's office.
237 00:17:10 Hi.
238 00:17:12 But we don't do red lines.
239 00:17:13 No questions off the table.
240 00:17:16 - Maybe just think on it.- I'll get back to you.
241 00:17:19 Great. Speak soon.
242 00:17:23 - [woman] Anything good?- Not sure. The Palace.
243 00:17:27 - Right, what have we got?- You know what I think?
244 00:17:30 For intelligent analysis,we're the only place in town.
245 00:17:33 Brexit again.
246 00:17:34 Sam, didn't you have something?The Palace?
247 00:17:37 Uh, not for tonight. But we have Lupita.
248 00:17:39 Great. Which bit of the Palace?
249 00:17:42 - Prince Andrew's private secretary.- Okay, what do they want?
250 00:17:45 Pitch@Palace. It's like The Apprentice,
251 00:17:48 only you get Prince Andrewinstead of Donald Trump.
252 00:17:51 - It's not on television--- Not Newsnight, is it?
253 00:17:54 Do you know Andrew's PS?
254 00:17:56 - No.- Did she reach out to you first?
255 00:18:00 [Sam] Yeah.
256 00:18:03 Yeah.
257 00:18:05 Okay, everyone, keep looking,and let's talk again in an hour.
258 00:18:08 [pensive music plays]
259 00:18:35 [Sam] I need a connect.
260 00:18:36 Uh, Jae Donnelly. A pap.Based in New York. Do you know him?
261 00:18:43 Great.
262 00:18:45 God... For Christ's sake.
263 00:18:47 Farage isn't available.We need somebody else.
264 00:18:51 Maybe even he's bored with it by now.Give me a minute.
265 00:18:53 - Who's on the phone?- Photographer.
266 00:18:55 Working for who? Paparazzi?
267 00:18:57 All your favorites, Freddy.The Sun. The Mail.
268 00:19:00 For Christ's sake.
269 00:19:02 [Sam] You know what?If we had half the instincts
270 00:19:04 and a quarter of the contactsfor the average tabloid pap,
271 00:19:07 maybe we wouldn't be scrabbling around
272 00:19:09 for new ways to havethe same argument every night.
273 00:19:12 So just, you know, leave it with me, yeah?
274 00:19:15 Coming right up.
275 00:19:16 Someone... Someonefor Emily to really tell off.
276 00:19:19 - All the dinner parties in North London...- Sam.
277 00:19:23 - ...say, "Did you see Newsnight last night?- Sam.
278 00:19:26 "Wasn't it amazing how Emily Maitlis saidall the great things we all agree with?"
279 00:19:31 We're mistaking talking to ourselvesfor news, Freddy, and it's killing us.
280 00:19:36 [inhales deeply]
281 00:19:43 - Stewart.- Mm?
282 00:19:44 I'm heading down to the studio.
283 00:19:48 [pensive music plays]
284 00:19:52 - Come! Moody!- [dog whimpers]
285 00:19:57 I behave like that... insulting peoplein front of the entire office,
286 00:20:02 I mean, am I still here?Do I still have a job?
287 00:20:16 We have an issue
288 00:20:19 with Sam.
289 00:20:21 We? Who's we?
290 00:20:22 [scoffs] Well, I do,
291 00:20:24 Freddy, and now possibly Emily.
292 00:20:28 I'm not a snob, but she's very Daily Mail.
293 00:20:30 I'm not sayingwe can't cope with different opinions,
294 00:20:33 but she is...
295 00:20:35 she's too defensive.
296 00:20:45 [woman] Put the lights up a touch.
297 00:20:47 It's too cold.
298 00:20:50 I didn't say "turn back down."
299 00:20:52 [tech] Sure, but this isthe correct set level for broadcast.
300 00:20:55 I'm aware of that. Back up.
301 00:20:58 Thanks for coming, Sam.
302 00:21:00 That level but warmer.
303 00:21:01 [tech] All right, okay.
304 00:21:03 I'll just have to switchsome things around.
305 00:21:07 You understand the pressure we're under?
306 00:21:09 All of us.I've got enough fights on my hands
307 00:21:12 without having them in my own team.
308 00:21:13 Maybe you should speak with--
309 00:21:15 I am speaking to them, and I'm sayingto them the same thing I'm saying to you.
310 00:21:20 - Help me out.- What about something like that?
311 00:21:22 Warmer, much warmer.
312 00:21:25 I'm trying to make changes.I want a broader audience.
313 00:21:28 That's how we survive.I've no interest in echo chambers.
314 00:21:32 I want different voices. I want tension.
315 00:21:34 And passion.
316 00:21:41 - Look, Emily, I'm sorry.- No, you're not.
317 00:21:45 You meant every word.
318 00:21:47 Not every word.
319 00:21:49 Don't think I don't knowwhat people think about me.
320 00:21:51 The point is,if we're at each other's throats,
321 00:21:53 then none of this is going to work.
322 00:21:56 [tech] So what are we saying?
323 00:21:58 No, warmer.
324 00:22:00 Okay, stop there.
325 00:22:02 - I like it.- [tech] Great.
326 00:22:05 Okay, understood. Anything else?
327 00:22:08 - I--- [Emily] Three women and a whippet.
328 00:22:10 You wouldn't have seen thatin a BBC studio when I started.
329 00:22:13 [woman laughs]
330 00:22:26 - [girl] Oh my God, n--- Oh my God, that is--
331 00:22:29 - No, no, no, no, no!- No, no, no, no!
332 00:22:32 - [exclaiming]- I told you!
333 00:22:34 [overlapping excited chatter]
334 00:22:36 [musical ringtone playing]
335 00:22:37 Oh.
336 00:22:41 Sorry about the noise. I'm working.I might have to go without saying goodbye.
337 00:22:45 Thanks for calling me back. Anything good?
338 00:22:49 A Kardashian launchinga new pair of knickers.
339 00:22:53 Gotta pay the bills.
340 00:22:54 - [chuckles]- All right, check your messages.
341 00:22:57 Some photos of girlsI've taken over the years at Epstein's.
342 00:23:01 They are in there about an hour each.
343 00:23:04 They look very young.
344 00:23:05 [girls laughing]
345 00:23:15 [Jae] They come froman apartment block on 66th Street
346 00:23:18 owned by Epstein's brother,rented by Jeffrey.
347 00:23:22 It's a warehouse of girls.
348 00:23:26 He calls them his "nubiles."
349 00:23:28 [scoffs]
350 00:23:29 This is still happening?
351 00:23:31 It's industrial, Sam.
352 00:23:33 I've been in New York for years.
353 00:23:35 All I have to do is spend24 hours outside of that place,
354 00:23:39 and you see them come and go.
355 00:23:40 How do we not know about this?
356 00:23:42 Because it's young girlsno one cares about
357 00:23:44 going in and out of a house.
358 00:23:47 And he's rich.
359 00:23:49 You know, he went to jail. Now he's out.Frankly, hardly anyone gives a shit.
360 00:23:53 And Andrew, is he in there often?
361 00:23:56 - Oh, back in the day, sure.- Any proof?
362 00:23:58 Of Andrew actually at Epstein's?
363 00:24:01 Other than the park picture?
364 00:24:02 Uh... no.
365 00:24:05 No, they're careful.
366 00:24:07 But I can promise you he was there.
367 00:24:09 - You know about Ghislaine Maxwell, right?- [clamoring]
368 00:24:12 - Andrew's friend?- No.
369 00:24:14 Well, you should. I've gotta go.Ghislaine. Look her up. I'll be in touch.
370 00:24:17 Thanks.
371 00:24:25 - [girl 1] Guys.- [girl 2] What?
372 00:24:26 - [girl 1] Look at this.- [girl 3] Let me see.
373 00:24:30 [all exclaiming]
374 00:24:40 [pensive music fades slowly]
375 00:25:01 [woman] Sam. Leave him a minute.
376 00:25:03 [mouthing]
377 00:25:06 - A what?- [softly] Writing a poem.
378 00:25:07 Lucas?
379 00:25:10 [horns honking]
380 00:25:16 [woman speaking indistinctly on TV]
381 00:25:24 So who is she?
382 00:25:26 I'm not in her class.
383 00:25:30 Listen, I... I know I'm your mum,and I'm biased and everything,
384 00:25:35 but you're very handsome,so you shouldn't--
385 00:25:37 No. Oh my. I mean my actual class.
386 00:25:40 - She's in the year above.- Oh.
387 00:25:42 Well, I like your ambition. [laughs]
388 00:25:44 - [man] Chili sauce, yeah? The usual?- Yes, please.
389 00:25:48 You want a tip? How to talk to girls?
390 00:25:50 - Do I have a choice?- Not really, no.
391 00:25:52 You listen. Most people want to talk.
392 00:25:54 But most people are terrible at listening.
393 00:25:57 Mm.
394 00:25:58 [news jingle playing]
395 00:26:01 But you promised the British peoplethere wouldn't be an issue.
396 00:26:05 And at the time, I followed that through--
397 00:26:07 - Were you wrong at the time?- I don't accept that.
398 00:26:10 Well, you were either wrongor making a promise you couldn't keep.
399 00:26:13 Which is it?
400 00:26:15 You described yourselfas a man of principle.
401 00:26:20 You also guaranteed votersthat border checks between the UK and EU
402 00:26:25 would be unaffected by Brex--
403 00:26:26 [TV mutes]
404 00:26:27 [pensive music playing]
405 00:27:07 [Jae] Hi, this is Jae Donnelly.Leave a message.
406 00:27:10 Hi, Jae. It's Sam.
407 00:27:13 Uh... this photo of... Andrew
408 00:27:16 with Ghislaine Maxwell in London
409 00:27:18 and a girl, 17 at the time...
410 00:27:22 Uh, 2001. Virginia Roberts.Do you know anything about it?
411 00:27:26 Um... Give me a callwhen you get this. Thanks.
412 00:27:35 [phone buzzes]
413 00:27:56 [alert whooshes]
414 00:28:00 Bloody hell.
415 00:28:02 [woman] I want a selfie.
416 00:28:03 [chuckles] Okay. Okay.
417 00:28:04 And a spoon.
418 00:28:06 [chuckles]
419 00:28:07 Okay, bye.
420 00:28:09 - [driver] Don't tell me.- What?
421 00:28:11 Is it Phil the Greek?
422 00:28:14 Jugface?
423 00:28:15 I can't say.
424 00:28:16 It can't be Her Majesty.Her flag's not up.
425 00:28:21 Well, just as long asit's not that Randy fucking Andy.
426 00:28:24 [chuckles]
427 00:28:30 Here we go.
428 00:28:31 [pensive music playing]
429 00:28:33 Whew!
430 00:28:35 Thanks.
431 00:28:37 [sighs]
432 00:28:40 - Hello. Morning.- Morning.
433 00:28:42 Yeah.
434 00:28:44 - Okay.- Thank you.
435 00:28:48 Follow the path.They'll let you in at the top.
436 00:28:50 Okay, great. Thanks.
437 00:28:51 [pensive music builds slowly]
438 00:29:12 [man] Good afternoon.
439 00:29:44 [Amanda] Earl Grey or chamomile?
440 00:29:46 [chuckles, sighs]
441 00:29:52 [Amanda] We lose a fair few.
442 00:29:55 - Teaspoons.- [both chuckle]
443 00:29:56 They just seem to
444 00:29:59 go.
445 00:30:02 It's seen as a good thing.
446 00:30:04 - It means everybody wants a part of us.- Us?
447 00:30:08 [inhales] Well,I've been here for a long time.
448 00:30:11 It's like family. The day we don't needto budget for extra teaspoons...
449 00:30:17 And... would he beprepared to talk about that?
450 00:30:21 The theft of teaspoonsfrom Buckingham Palace?
451 00:30:24 The future of the monarchy.What it will mean when the Queen dies.
452 00:30:29 [quietly] We don't talk about that.
453 00:30:31 Too painful? For a favorite son?
454 00:30:35 [inhales sharply, exhales]
455 00:30:37 One thing about Her Majesty,
456 00:30:40 she is a very good judge of character.
457 00:30:45 Mm.
458 00:30:47 So... what's she like?
459 00:30:50 - Who?- Emily.
460 00:30:51 Oh, well, she runs... [chuckles]
461 00:30:54 She swims, she interviews.
462 00:30:57 Nobody's ever seen her eat.She's Superwoman.
463 00:31:01 - And the Bic.- Harry Potter has his wand.
464 00:31:04 Emily Maitlis has her Bic.
465 00:31:06 [Amanda chuckles softly]
466 00:31:08 And Andrew? How's his judge of character?
467 00:31:14 He's a... a very loyal friend.
468 00:31:19 Too loyal for his own good sometimes.
469 00:31:23 Ghislaine Maxwell.
470 00:31:24 [elevator dings]
471 00:31:26 - She was a good friend, yes.- Mm-hmm.
472 00:31:31 Straight to the point.
473 00:31:33 There was some small talk,
474 00:31:35 but we're both busy women,and we both know why we're here, Amanda.
475 00:31:44 [whispers] Do you wantto get a real drink?
476 00:31:46 [chuckles]
477 00:31:47 - [elevator dings]- [pensive music plays]
478 00:31:52 Amanda?
479 00:31:58 Amanda?
480 00:32:00 Uh... she's out.
481 00:32:02 With Sam McAlister.
482 00:32:06 Who?
483 00:32:10 What do you think you know about me, Sam?
484 00:32:13 [inhales deeply]
485 00:32:15 I know you come from banking.
486 00:32:17 A single mum.
487 00:32:20 I know that you've beendoing this job for seven years,
488 00:32:23 and you have a problem that won't go away.
489 00:32:27 And I know that you're here
490 00:32:29 and Jason Stein isn't.
491 00:32:33 So?
492 00:32:33 So maybe it's youwho wants to do things differently.
493 00:32:38 Or we're just looking at options.
494 00:32:41 - Or that.- [both laugh]
495 00:32:44 - [phone buzzing]- [Amanda] Oh...
496 00:32:46 Uh...
497 00:32:47 Sorry, it's Andrew. He needs me.
498 00:32:49 Um, I'm only tryingto be honest with you, Amanda.
499 00:32:52 I always am.
500 00:32:53 And you know it can't just be Pitch.
501 00:32:57 And like I said before,you wouldn't be here talking to Newsnight
502 00:33:02 if you didn't already know that.
503 00:33:04 [inhales sharply] But I'm not talkingto Newsnight, Sam.
504 00:33:08 I'm talking to you.
505 00:33:10 And there is a red line.
506 00:33:12 [melancholy music playing]
507 00:33:14 Thank you for meeting.
508 00:33:22 [Andrew] You'll like this too.This is moments
509 00:33:25 after I've just narrowly been missedby inches by an Exocet missile.
510 00:33:29 And as soon as it came, I'd...
511 00:33:31 Out of the way, and I'd come down.I'd do that two times a day.
512 00:33:34 [woman] Must have been terrifying moments.
513 00:33:36 Oh, some of the worst.
514 00:33:38 And some of the best.
515 00:33:41 Those... Those... Those men,
516 00:33:43 they... they-they really knew me, you know?
517 00:33:46 Well, there's no hiding in war.
518 00:33:48 From your shipmates. Um...
519 00:33:51 From yourself.
520 00:33:53 Do you ever miss it?
521 00:33:54 What, war?
522 00:33:56 The Argies werea lot less trouble than your lot.
523 00:33:58 [laughter]
524 00:33:59 Come on. Let's go for it.Let's do the tour.
525 00:34:04 [Jason] Newsnight? Newsnight?!
526 00:34:08 You saw that.
527 00:34:09 Can't... Can't you seehow good he is with people?
528 00:34:12 How they like himwhen they spend time with him?
529 00:34:15 - That's the plan, Amanda.- Look, it's called charm.
530 00:34:18 Jason, you have to bein the room with it to feel it.
531 00:34:21 Television?
532 00:34:22 Look, it was just a meeting.
533 00:34:24 A meeting you shouldn't have taken.
534 00:34:27 Especially without me.
535 00:34:29 This is my job.
536 00:34:33 No, not now, Freddy.
537 00:34:35 - Did the liquid lunch go on the BBC tab?- [sighs] I was so close.
538 00:34:39 Really? Think you have special powers overa big beast like Buckingham Palace Comms?
539 00:34:44 It was just the two of us. Nobody else.
540 00:34:46 - And we were so close.- To what?
541 00:34:49 An interview.This Epstein story isn't going away.
542 00:34:53 Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's girlfriend,is one of Andrew's oldest friends.
543 00:34:57 Then they're not gonnatalk to us about it, are they?
544 00:35:00 Sam, it's celebrity fluff, not Newsnight.
545 00:35:02 [Sam] It's not fluff.It's exactly what we should be doing.
546 00:35:05 I'm sorry, but we don't have timefor you to spend
547 00:35:07 a whole day chasing a story thatwe're never gonna get. Not anymore.
548 00:35:12 We're meant to be a team.Why do you think you're so special?
549 00:35:19 This is the work.
550 00:35:21 All right? Today was the work becausethis story is only going to get bigger.
551 00:35:25 And when it does, we don't wanna bethe first people making the call.
552 00:35:28 We wanna be the first people they call.And if I--
553 00:35:35 If I can't do my jobthe way it needs to be done,
554 00:35:38 then I don't think I can do this anymore.
555 00:35:49 [energetic music playing]
556 00:36:01 Oh, Sammy.
557 00:36:03 [breathes deeply]
558 00:36:11 [pensive music playing]
559 00:36:36 [automated voice]Please leave a message after the tone.
560 00:36:40 Hi, Esme. It's Sam.
561 00:36:42 Um...
562 00:36:45 I was just calling...
563 00:36:48 Uh, could you...
564 00:36:51 Could you call me back when you get this?It's important. Thanks, bye.
565 00:36:56 You all right?
566 00:37:02 D'you know, I spend half my time
567 00:37:05 just absolutely terrifiedof getting sacked,
568 00:37:08 and the rest of itwishing they'd get it over with.
569 00:37:11 Why don't they see me as one of them?
570 00:37:14 - Maybe there's somewhere easier.- I don't want it to be easy, Mum. I just...
571 00:37:18 [footsteps approaching]
572 00:37:21 I just want it to matter.
573 00:37:23 [door shuts]
574 00:37:24 [inhales] Lucas!
575 00:37:27 - Mmm... Night-night.- Night-night. Night-night. [kisses]
576 00:37:31 - Night, you.- Night.
577 00:37:33 [kisses]
578 00:37:34 Hello.
579 00:37:35 I spoke to her. Freya. That's her name.
580 00:37:38 Yeah. And what did she say?What did you say?
581 00:37:41 - Hello.- [chuckles]
582 00:37:43 What did she say?
583 00:37:44 Well, I thought maybe she hadn't heard me.But she did. And--
584 00:37:47 - [musical ringtone playing]- Yeah. Oh, one minute, darling. Wait.
585 00:37:50 One second. Hang on.
586 00:37:54 Jae?
587 00:37:55 How was the Palace?
588 00:37:57 I couldn't make it work.Epstein's a no-go.
589 00:37:59 Well, not anymore.
590 00:38:01 - What do you mean?- I'm at Teterboro. A private airfield.
591 00:38:04 Our friend Jeffrey's planeis due to land in the next hour.
592 00:38:08 And the FBI are waiting.
593 00:38:10 - Mum! Can you...- [car alarm chirps]
594 00:38:13 Can you stay one more hour with Lucas?That all right?
595 00:38:16 - Yeah, of course.- I'll be back before he goes to bed.
596 00:38:19 [Sam's mum] Take your time. See you later.
597 00:38:27 [musical ringtone playing]
598 00:38:35 Hello?
599 00:38:36 You called me.
600 00:38:38 You said it was important.
601 00:38:41 Jeffrey Epstein is being arrested tonight.Sex trafficking.
602 00:38:46 Esme? Are you there?
603 00:38:47 So it's a news story now.
604 00:38:49 Right, let's start pushing the Palace.
605 00:38:57 Thanks.
606 00:38:57 [energetic music playing]
607 00:39:04 Whew!
608 00:39:16 All right.
609 00:39:17 [door buzzes]
610 00:39:22 Everything's changed.
611 00:39:25 Any moment now,you are going to get a phone call.
612 00:39:27 After that, a hundred more.
613 00:39:29 We have a few hours,at best, before the tsunami hits.
614 00:39:32 - I thought we could use it, both of us.- What has changed?
615 00:39:35 The FBI are raiding Jeffrey Epstein's homeany moment now.
616 00:39:40 This red line of yoursisn't going to hold, Amanda.
617 00:39:42 You can't go "no comment"on being friends with a pedophile
618 00:39:46 and expect everyone to love you,whoever you are.
619 00:39:51 - How do I know I can trust you?- You don't.
620 00:39:54 And you don't have tobecause I can give you an hour.
621 00:39:58 Yeah? And then it's up to him. Not you.
622 00:40:01 Not me. Him.
623 00:40:07 [exhales]
624 00:40:12 An hour of televisioncan change everything.
625 00:40:15 It's like magic.
626 00:40:19 [newswoman] US financier Jeffrey Epsteinhas been arrested today
627 00:40:23 on federal sex trafficking charges.
628 00:40:26 The disgraced billionaire has been accusedof trafficking dozens of underage girls.
629 00:40:32 He was previously convicted in 2008
630 00:40:35 after pleading guiltyto soliciting a minor for prostitution.
631 00:40:40 How many times?
632 00:40:41 ...will no doubt focuson Mr. Epstein's friendship...
633 00:40:44 How many times?
634 00:40:46 ...the Duke of York,who previously claimed to have cut...
635 00:40:48 I'm sorry.
636 00:40:49 ...all ties with Epstein in 2010.
637 00:40:55 [sighs]
638 00:40:56 Where does he go?Simple question, where does he go?
639 00:41:01 [scoffs]
640 00:41:04 A clue.
641 00:41:07 He's a marsupial.
642 00:41:12 Roo. As in Kanga.
643 00:41:16 Put them together. What do you get?
644 00:41:22 - Rookanga.- Oh, go away.
645 00:41:26 Go away!
646 00:41:29 [tense music playing]
647 00:41:37 [indistinct shouting intensifies]
648 00:41:41 They have acknowledged the duke'sfriendship with Mr. Epstein in the past.
649 00:41:46 They state that...
650 00:41:47 [Sam] If the prime minister needsto get this message across to voters,
651 00:41:50 you're going to need to send ussomeone people have actually heard of,
652 00:41:53 who can form sentences usingmore than just single-syllable... words...
653 00:41:57 ...now has the very latest news.
654 00:41:59 The investigationsurrounding Jeffrey Epstein's arrest
655 00:42:02 three weeks ago for child sex offenses
656 00:42:04 has today widened to include his friendPrince Andrew, the Duke of York,
657 00:42:09 as previously suppressed documentsfrom a case in 2015 come to light.
658 00:42:15 Virginia Giuffre,17 at the time of the allegations,
659 00:42:19 claims in newly released documentsthat she had sex with the Duke of York
660 00:42:23 on three separate occasions.
661 00:42:24 Twice in London, and oncein Mr. Epstein's home in New York.
662 00:42:29 [female reporter]While Buckingham Palace continue to deny
663 00:42:32 these latest allegationsagainst the Duke of York,
664 00:42:35 Virginia Giuffre told reportersoutside a court in Manhattan...
665 00:42:40 [scoffs]
666 00:42:41 It's not true.
667 00:42:42 I mean, none of it is true.
668 00:42:44 - ...the deepening crisis surrounding Andrew...- [scoffs]
669 00:42:52 The morning I went awayto boarding school...
670 00:42:57 Mummy combed my hair.
671 00:43:03 It was one of those tortoiseshell combs.Remember those?
672 00:43:08 I can feel it now,scraping across my head.
673 00:43:15 It hurt, but I... [sighs]
674 00:43:19 But I didn't want it to stop.
675 00:43:26 So Jason says... n-nothing changes.
676 00:43:29 We... hold our nerve.
677 00:43:34 Is that what you think?
678 00:43:38 Let's see how it plays out.
679 00:43:46 [exhales sharply]
680 00:43:56 I'm supposed to be talking to Mummyabout my 60th birthday.
681 00:44:03 She's got big plans.
682 00:44:04 [tense warbling music builds slowly]
683 00:44:26 [anchor 1] Mr. Epstein,arrested just over a month ago,
684 00:44:28 was found dead this morning
685 00:44:29 in his cell at the Metropolitan...
686 00:44:31 [anchor 2] He once counted amonghis friends Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew...
687 00:44:34 [anchor 3] He was in cardiac arrestand pronounced dead...
688 00:44:37 [anchor 4] ...charged on traffickingdozens of girls for sex...
689 00:44:39 - [anchor 5] ...six underage victims...- [anchor 6] ...involving underage girls...
690 00:44:42 [anchor 7] ...including Donald Trump,liked beautiful women...
691 00:44:45 [anchor 8] ...categorically deniedby the royal family.
692 00:44:47 [Esme] All across the world, every paper,every show on every news channel,
693 00:44:52 this is the story. The only story.
694 00:44:54 - Morning.- Morning.
695 00:44:56 Sam, I want it for us.
696 00:44:58 For Newsnight.
697 00:44:59 You got your foot in the doorbefore anyone else.
698 00:45:04 [phone buzzing]
699 00:45:09 [Sam] Amanda. Hi, it's Sam McAlister.
700 00:45:12 Please call me.
701 00:45:14 When you're ready to talk, we're here.
702 00:45:25 [Amanda sighs]
703 00:45:37 Her Majesty combing your hairon your last morning at home...
704 00:45:46 Yes?
705 00:45:48 [Amanda] You remembering itand talking about it...
706 00:45:55 Yes?
707 00:45:58 [Amanda]I think there's a reason for that.
708 00:46:03 I think you want your future back.
709 00:46:07 We both do.
710 00:46:13 Let me help you.
711 00:46:17 [man on TV] ...relationshipwith Epstein will persist.
712 00:46:21 Now, of course, the duke, the Palaceare desperate to move on from this issue,
713 00:46:26 but with today's news,
714 00:46:28 the prospect of thatseems further away than ever.
715 00:46:33 No commitments, no promises.
716 00:46:35 - [Esme] But?- They've agreed to meet.
717 00:46:39 Right. This stays in this room,just the four of us.
718 00:46:43 If it leaks that we're even meeting,they could get spooked.
719 00:46:46 Sam, whatever you need, it's yours.
720 00:46:49 Actually, there was one thing.I think it will help a lot.
721 00:46:52 [Esme] Name it.
722 00:46:54 Emily.
723 00:46:55 [upbeat music plays]
724 00:47:03 I've never beensmuggled into a palace before.
725 00:47:12 [overlapping chatter]
726 00:47:15 [Stewart] Keep it light.
727 00:47:17 - [Sam] Mm.- We don't scare him off.
728 00:47:20 We, uh... we play nice.
729 00:47:23 Be respectful.
730 00:47:25 Relax, I've got this.
731 00:47:28 How difficult can it betalking to the Queen's son
732 00:47:30 about his friendshipwith a convicted sex offender?
733 00:47:33 [sighs]
734 00:47:34 Good morning.
735 00:47:35 [Andrew] Hello, everyone.
736 00:47:37 I hope you don't mind,I brought someone along.
737 00:47:40 - Hello.- You know my daughter Beatrice.
738 00:47:43 Hello.
739 00:47:46 [Emily] I can't tell youwhat the questions will be
740 00:47:50 because I don't know myself yet.
741 00:47:54 But when I do know...
742 00:47:57 I still won't tell you.
743 00:47:58 [light chuckling]
744 00:48:02 But... they will be fair.
745 00:48:06 And no "gotchas," I promise.
746 00:48:11 "Will be"?
747 00:48:13 "Would be," I think you mean.
748 00:48:16 Were we to agree to do this.
749 00:48:19 And Pitch@Palace?
750 00:48:22 We'll discuss that, of course.
751 00:48:25 But... you know as well as I do,
752 00:48:29 that's not why we're here.
753 00:48:33 Epstein.
754 00:48:36 This is about honesty.
755 00:48:39 On both sides.
756 00:48:47 If I do an interview, it will only be one.
757 00:48:52 Uh, the question is, why you?
758 00:48:57 - [Emily] Stewart?- Well, um, Newsnight is forensic.
759 00:49:01 Um, it's tough, but never sensational.And so is Emily.
760 00:49:04 - And she's a woman.- And she's a woman.
761 00:49:07 And she's here.
762 00:49:09 [light chuckling]
763 00:49:12 Um... [sighs deeply]
764 00:49:15 Look, in my position,
765 00:49:21 with everything that's been, um... said,
766 00:49:24 and with the world as it is now, I...
767 00:49:28 It's hard to imagine howI can turn it around. Frankly. I mean...
768 00:49:31 I... I have a lot of people telling meit's a mistake even being in this room.
769 00:49:36 [Sam] And yet here you are.
770 00:49:39 And I can promise you one thing.
771 00:49:41 You can't turn it aroundby staying silent.
772 00:49:46 You know how people see you, don't you?
773 00:49:52 Why don't you... spell it out?
774 00:50:02 Randy Andy.
775 00:50:04 Air Miles Andy.
776 00:50:06 This is sex, and girls,
777 00:50:08 and planes and private islands and money.
778 00:50:12 And, with respect,the public see these stories,
779 00:50:15 and they think, "Yep, I can believe that."
780 00:50:19 This isn't bad for your brand.
781 00:50:23 This is your brand.
782 00:50:30 "With respect"?
783 00:50:36 [laughing]
784 00:50:38 Well...
785 00:50:39 Sort of got a point. [laughs]
786 00:50:41 [Sam] Listen, I get it.
787 00:50:43 "Never complain, never explain."But I'm afraid those days are over.
788 00:50:47 Yes, everyone has a voice now.
789 00:50:50 Social media. Facebook.
790 00:50:52 Twitter. Everyone's having their say,
791 00:50:55 and what they're saying about you
792 00:50:58 is a lot... strongerthan anything I just said.
793 00:51:06 - Have you seen Twitter?- No, I don't, uh, pay attention to that.
794 00:51:09 [Beatrice] I do.
795 00:51:12 A lot worse than what she said.
796 00:51:16 [pensive music builds slowly]
797 00:51:18 So I'm just saying that's the story,
798 00:51:21 and it doesn't change
799 00:51:23 unless you change it,
800 00:51:25 unless you tell us a different story.
801 00:51:30 Your story.
802 00:51:33 In your voice.
803 00:51:44 [Emily] Sam's right.
804 00:51:47 I mean,
805 00:51:49 I might not have said itquite so bluntly, but...
806 00:51:54 [Andrew] Well... [sighs]
807 00:51:56 I don't understand why everyone's obsessedwith my friendship with Jeffrey Epstein.
808 00:52:00 I knew Jimmy Savile so much better.
809 00:52:03 [laughs] Um...
810 00:52:06 Thank you very much.Very nice to meet you.
811 00:52:08 Um, should we pop up and say helloto Mummy before the Commonwealth banquet?
812 00:52:13 Never ends, does it?
813 00:52:14 Um, Amanda will be in touch,one way or another.
814 00:52:21 - [Emily] Her mummy or his mummy?- [Sam] Fergie's not here.
815 00:52:24 She's abroad.
816 00:52:26 - So his mummy.- Okay, wow. Bloody hell.
817 00:52:30 Mummy might block it.
818 00:52:32 Yeah.
819 00:52:34 Christ, I'm tired.
820 00:52:35 Pretty punchy in there, Sammy.
821 00:52:38 Nice work.
822 00:52:41 [Jason] Conditions, Amanda?
823 00:52:44 You... You discussed conditions.
824 00:52:48 I... I didn't agree to anything.
825 00:52:51 It... It's not like that.
826 00:52:53 Amanda.
827 00:52:55 What conditions?
828 00:52:58 The only thing that matters isthat he is given the space to talk to us.
829 00:53:06 "Us"?
830 00:53:08 The nation.
831 00:53:09 Oh my God.
832 00:53:11 [chuckles, sighs]
833 00:53:14 I can't do this.
834 00:53:17 - Mm.- No.
835 00:53:20 I'm out.
836 00:53:26 I understand.
837 00:53:30 [scoffs]
838 00:53:40 If they agree, and if it happens,
839 00:53:42 it's 60 minutes.
840 00:53:44 "If it happens"? What could stop us?
841 00:53:46 Something high up.This is the royal family and the BBC.
842 00:53:49 People start talking aboutthe national interest and make no mistake,
843 00:53:53 if we get this, and we pull it off,it will be front page of every paper.
844 00:53:57 But if we get it wrong,if we make mistakes,
845 00:53:59 if we don't get the tone right,
846 00:54:02 the story won't be him. It'll be us.
847 00:54:05 No, it won't.
848 00:54:07 It'll be me.
849 00:54:08 [pensive music plays]
850 00:54:22 [footsteps approaching]
851 00:54:26 [sighs deeply]
852 00:54:30 She's always right, isn't she?
853 00:54:33 Always.
854 00:54:38 What did she say?
855 00:54:43 She trusts my judgment.
856 00:54:52 [musical ringtone playing]
857 00:55:01 [Sam] Great.
858 00:55:12 Amanda Thirsk called.
859 00:55:14 Thursday, 2:00 p.m. The Palace.
860 00:55:16 [all breathing deeply]
861 00:55:18 We're on.
862 00:55:20 Got 70 hours.Emily, you're spending them with me.
863 00:55:23 Stewart, you're producing.Sam, anyone who needs you, gets you.
864 00:55:26 Yes, is Fran there?
865 00:55:28 Yes, extremely urgent.
866 00:55:32 With the director-general? Which opera?
867 00:55:35 [woman singing opera in distance]
868 00:55:37 [Fran] When it's done,
869 00:55:38 nobody sees the cutuntil the DG and I have seen it.
870 00:55:42 [opera singing continues]
871 00:55:44 Lovely to see you both.
872 00:55:52 Tony's keeping his options open.
873 00:55:54 Well, it's not overtill the fat lady sings.
874 00:55:59 [Esme] So the question is,
875 00:56:01 what are we looking for?
876 00:56:04 A confession?
877 00:56:06 String of denials?
878 00:56:08 An apology?
879 00:56:10 No way he's confessingunless he wants to go to jail,
880 00:56:13 and we're not settling for an apology,so we go after him hard with the facts.
881 00:56:17 - Fine. So where do we start?- [Freddy] Mm.
882 00:56:20 July 15th, 2006. Jeffrey Epstein,Ghislaine Maxwell, and Harvey Weinstein
883 00:56:24 are at Beatrice'sVictorian-themed 18th birthday party.
884 00:56:27 Epstein wore white with gold buttonsand a chestful of medals.
885 00:56:31 His Florida homehad just been raided by police.
886 00:56:33 Sorry, that's a lot to take in, in one go.
887 00:56:36 July 15th, 2006,
888 00:56:37 Epstein, Maxwell, and Harvey Weinstein
889 00:56:40 are all at Beatrice'sVictorian-themed 18th birthday party.
890 00:56:44 Epstein wore white with gold buttonsand a chestful of medals.
891 00:56:48 His Florida homehad just been raided by police.
892 00:56:50 Sorry, that's a lot to take in, in one go.
893 00:56:52 [all laughing]
894 00:56:54 That is fantastic. Nowhere to hide.
895 00:56:58 [Freddy] Andrew's tried to make it seemhis friendship with Ghislaine
896 00:57:01 was the main reasonhe spent time with Epstein.
897 00:57:04 Problem is, it looks likeshe was absolutely complicit
898 00:57:07 in so much of what Epstein was doing.
899 00:57:15 This painting of Clinton...That's the Lewinsky dress.
900 00:57:18 [Freddy] Yep. Epstein had it on his wall.
901 00:57:24 There was a life-sized naked dollhanging from a chandelier.
902 00:57:29 A massage room.
903 00:57:30 Soap shaped like genitalia.
904 00:57:33 You couldn't be anywhere near Epsteinand not know.
905 00:57:40 [Sam's mum] You know Lucas canstay here tonight if you have to work.
906 00:57:43 No, it's fine. They don't need me anyway.
907 00:57:47 I don't believe that for a second.
908 00:57:50 Then why didn't they ask me to stay, Mum?
909 00:57:52 I bring in the interview,and they still don't want me in the room.
910 00:57:56 Sam, you know how this works.
911 00:57:59 People like us, we don't wait to be asked.
912 00:58:02 We do what we have to do.
913 00:58:05 Did they ask youto go after Prince Andrew?
914 00:58:08 - No.- No, they didn't.
915 00:58:10 But you did.
916 00:58:12 Remember that.
917 00:58:14 And this interview,
918 00:58:17 does it matter?
919 00:58:21 Yeah, it matters.
920 00:58:23 Well, there you go, then.
921 00:58:25 [footsteps in lobby]
922 00:58:31 Love you, Mum. [chuckles softly]
923 00:58:32 I love you too, sweetheart.
924 00:58:36 [sniffs]
925 00:58:40 [gentle music builds slowly]
926 00:59:13 [sighs deeply]
927 00:59:19 [musical ringtone playing]
928 00:59:24 Hello.
929 00:59:26 [Amanda] Sam. Uh...
930 00:59:29 I hope it's not too early.
931 00:59:32 [Esme] And the 29th. And you've got,what, everything from the 17th of June?
932 00:59:36 [Freddy] That's right.
933 00:59:38 - Can you put those on a memory stick?- Yeah.
934 00:59:40 [Sam] Amanda called.
935 00:59:44 Is she pulling the plug?
936 00:59:47 South Drawing Room.
937 00:59:49 Two chairs in the middle of the floor.Six feet apart.
938 00:59:53 It's like a western.
939 00:59:55 Like a gunfight in a western.
940 00:59:57 [tense music builds slowly]
941 01:00:06 - Right.- Huh.
942 01:00:08 All set?
943 01:00:11 [Esme] Emily.
944 01:00:12 What's wrong?
945 01:00:15 What if he just apologizes?
946 01:00:17 What if I lay out all the facts,
947 01:00:21 he doesn't admit to anything,but he does say sorry?
948 01:00:28 What if he's good, Esme?
949 01:00:30 Then it'll be great television.
950 01:00:32 Well, that's not why I'm doing it.
951 01:00:34 Well, why are you doing it?
952 01:00:40 Monica Lewinsky.
953 01:00:42 I feel like I let women downby not asking Clinton about her.
954 01:00:46 Sex with that womanwas actually consensual.
955 01:00:49 She was 21.He was the president of the United States.
956 01:00:53 He got his life back.She got decades of vicious misogyny.
957 01:00:59 You push.
958 01:01:00 What?
959 01:01:01 If he's good, if he's saying sorryfor what these girls went through,
960 01:01:04 then... lean in and ask himif he feels responsible as well as sorry.
961 01:01:08 [Emily] What if he says no?
962 01:01:09 Push again, with the photograph.Show him the picture. Here.
963 01:01:15 Here.
964 01:01:19 But this photograph... is you.
965 01:01:22 I don't believe I was ever there,
966 01:01:26 that I ever even went upstairsin that house.
967 01:01:29 Um... You don't recollect,Your Royal Highness.
968 01:01:33 Yes, of course.
969 01:01:34 So... it's a fake?
970 01:01:36 [Andrew] As I say,
971 01:01:38 I have no recollectionof ever having been there
972 01:01:43 or even meeting that woman.
973 01:01:44 Ms. Roberts.Please don't ever say "that woman."
974 01:01:48 Ever.
975 01:01:49 - Oh, for heaven's sake.- I understand this is difficult.
976 01:01:51 And, of course,
977 01:01:53 you couldn't have been thereon that date, correct?
978 01:01:58 Hm.
979 01:01:59 You have denied, many times,
980 01:02:03 having even met Virginia Giuffre.
981 01:02:07 You have deniedher extremely serious allegations
982 01:02:12 that she was forced to have sex with you
983 01:02:16 when she was just 17 years old.
984 01:02:19 Now, either this happened
985 01:02:23 or she's lying.
986 01:02:25 Which is it?
987 01:02:27 [exhales]
988 01:02:30 Bingo. Brilliant.
989 01:02:32 We got him.
990 01:02:45 Sam.
991 01:02:48 Tell me.
992 01:02:50 Nothing.
993 01:02:52 Tell me.
994 01:02:54 I'm going in there. You're not.
995 01:02:56 If you have something to say,I want to hear it.
996 01:02:59 [inhales deeply, sighs]
997 01:03:01 It's just we offered him... space and time.
998 01:03:06 We offered him an interview.
999 01:03:10 Men like that hate itwhen they're not heard.
1000 01:03:13 He'll want to be heard.
1001 01:03:25 So the really big question...is what do I wear?
1002 01:03:29 [laughter]
1003 01:03:30 Black dress.
1004 01:03:32 Simple, elegant.
1005 01:03:34 Hepburn/Maitlis.
1006 01:03:36 My knees.
1007 01:03:38 You've got the best knees on TV.
1008 01:03:39 I don't want people looking at my knees.
1009 01:03:42 You don't want him looking at your knees.Actually, we do want him looking.
1010 01:03:45 - That would be good TV.- [chuckling]
1011 01:03:47 [exhales deeply]
1012 01:03:52 [Esme] Emily?
1013 01:03:55 Go home.
1014 01:03:57 I want you raring to go in the morning.
1015 01:04:07 [Emily] 2006.
1016 01:04:09 Epstein was convicted of trafficking girlsas young as 14.
1017 01:04:13 Yet you continued relations with himfor another four years.
1018 01:04:18 And yet you...
1019 01:04:20 and yet you continuedyour friendship with him until 2010.
1020 01:04:25 [tense music plays softly]
1021 01:04:29 [panting] And yet you continued...
1022 01:04:32 - [dog barks]- Moody!
1023 01:04:38 [tense music builds slowly]
1024 01:04:54 That's great. Yeah, just in this room.All right. Through there.
1025 01:04:59 Moody!
1026 01:05:03 - ID, please, miss.- Yeah, um...
1027 01:05:07 She's with me.
1028 01:05:09 Thanks!
1029 01:05:12 Thanks.
1030 01:05:20 [sighs]
1031 01:05:26 You chase them, you'll never catch them.
1032 01:05:29 And then when they're ready to come,you won't be there.
1033 01:05:39 He might walk out. If Emily's doing to himwhat I think, it's a strong possibility.
1034 01:05:42 If he does, film it.
1035 01:05:44 - Whatever he does, do not stop filming.- Stewart.
1036 01:05:49 - Right.- Um...
1037 01:05:54 Your Royal Highness.
1038 01:06:23 [Andrew] Sure about this?
1039 01:06:26 Little bit, um...
1040 01:06:28 [woman] A bit of powder,Your Royal Highness?
1041 01:06:30 - Sure. What's your name?- Cat.
1042 01:06:31 - Okay? First question.- Yeah.
1043 01:06:33 I want it to set the tone. Straight in."Jeffrey Epstein was a child abuser."
1044 01:06:37 "You knew that when you wentto stay with him, didn't you?"
1045 01:06:40 Only one answer to that.Already he's got nowhere to go.
1046 01:06:42 [Andrew] No, this needsto be on the other side.
1047 01:06:45 It's going throughthe opposite edge of the chair.
1048 01:06:48 That way, it won't stick out.
1049 01:06:51 - Oh God.- No, wait.
1050 01:06:53 Let him be. We want him to be comfortable.
1051 01:07:00 Trousers.
1052 01:07:05 [chuckles]
1053 01:07:10 [bell ringing]
1054 01:07:12 [Andrew grunts]
1055 01:07:13 [stark, pensive music plays]
1056 01:07:24 Just, uh...
1057 01:07:27 Just... be yourself.
1058 01:07:37 [Sam clears throat]
1059 01:07:41 [Sam] That's not great.
1060 01:07:42 Donal McCabe.He's from the Queen's press office.
1061 01:07:46 [Stewart] We didn't agree to that, did we?
1062 01:07:48 [Sam] With the Queen?
1063 01:07:50 No. But by all means, take it up with her.
1064 01:07:53 [chuckles lightly]
1065 01:07:59 [woman] Sound speed.
1066 01:08:03 [clock ticking]
1067 01:08:07 [man] Set.
1068 01:08:10 Your Royal Highness.
1069 01:08:12 We've come to Buckingham Palace
1070 01:08:15 in highly unusual circumstances.
1071 01:08:20 Normally, we'd be discussing your work...
1072 01:08:22 - [Andrew] Mm.- ...your duty.
1073 01:08:23 We'll come on to that.
1074 01:08:25 But today,
1075 01:08:27 you've chosen to speak outfor the first time.
1076 01:08:31 Why have you decided to talk now?
1077 01:08:37 Because there is no good time
1078 01:08:41 to talk about, um... Mr. Epstein
1079 01:08:45 and all things associated.
1080 01:08:49 And we've been talkingto Newsnight for some time
1081 01:08:52 about, um, doing somethingaround the work that I was doing.
1082 01:08:56 And unfortunately,we've just not been able
1083 01:08:58 to fit into either your scheduleor my schedule until now... now.
1084 01:09:03 Actually, it's a very good opportunity.I'm delighted to be able to see you today.
1085 01:09:09 As you say,
1086 01:09:11 it all goes back to your friendshipwith Jeffrey Epstein.
1087 01:09:15 Hmm.
1088 01:09:17 How did you first become friends?
1089 01:09:20 How did you meet?
1090 01:09:21 Well, I met through his girlfriend.
1091 01:09:25 Um...
1092 01:09:26 Back in 1999.
1093 01:09:27 [whispers] It's too open. It's too easy.
1094 01:09:30 [Andrew] I'd known Ghislainesince university. In the UK.
1095 01:09:34 And, um, I didn't spend much time...
1096 01:09:38 I suppose I saw him once or twice a year,perhaps maximum three times a year,
1097 01:09:43 and... quite often, um, if I wasin the United States and doing things,
1098 01:09:50 and he wasn't there, he'd say,
1099 01:09:53 "Why don't you come and use my houses?"
1100 01:09:56 And I said, "Thank you very much indeed."
1101 01:09:58 But it would be... a considerable stretchto say that we were very close friends.
1102 01:10:04 But he had the most extraordinary ability
1103 01:10:06 to, um... to bring...extraordinary people together.
1104 01:10:11 And that's the bit that I remember.
1105 01:10:14 It's going to dinner partieswhere you would meet...
1106 01:10:17 What's she doing?
1107 01:10:18 ...academics, politicians...
1108 01:10:20 She's letting him talk.
1109 01:10:22 [Andrew] It was a cosmopolitan groupof what I would call--
1110 01:10:26 Did you trust him?
1111 01:10:30 [hesitates] Um...
1112 01:10:31 Yes, I think I probably did,
1113 01:10:33 but, um...
1114 01:10:36 Obviously, I don't go into...um, a friendship
1115 01:10:41 looking for the... the wrong thing,if you understand what I mean.
1116 01:10:45 I... I'm an engaging person.
1117 01:10:47 I want to be able to engage.
1118 01:10:50 Am I right in thinkingyou threw a birthday party
1119 01:10:53 for Epstein's girlfriend,Ghislaine Maxwell, at Sandringham?
1120 01:10:59 No, it was a shooting weekend.
1121 01:11:02 A shooting weekend?
1122 01:11:03 Yes, just a straightforward...straightforward shooting weekend.
1123 01:11:08 But during these timesthat he was a guest at Windsor Castle,
1124 01:11:14 at Sandringham, this shooting weekend...
1125 01:11:16 Yep.
1126 01:11:17 We now know... that he had been
1127 01:11:22 procuring young girls...for sex trafficking.
1128 01:11:32 We now know that.
1129 01:11:36 At the time,
1130 01:11:38 there was no indication,
1131 01:11:41 to me... or anybody else,
1132 01:11:44 that that's what he was doing.
1133 01:11:48 Absolutely no indication.
1134 01:11:50 - [knocking]- [inhales]
1135 01:11:52 Flight logs for Epstein's jet.
1136 01:11:54 The, uh, quote "Lolita Express."
1137 01:11:57 PA, Prince Andrew, is a frequent flyer.
1138 01:12:00 So is BC, Bill,
1139 01:12:01 and GM, Ghislaine Maxwell.
1140 01:12:04 Princes, presidents, and females.
1141 01:12:08 The girls don't get named.
1142 01:12:11 Just so our ducks are in a rowwhen all of Fleet Street comes knocking.
1143 01:12:16 Just for the record,you've been on his private plane.
1144 01:12:20 Yes.
1145 01:12:21 You've been to stay on his private island.
1146 01:12:25 Yes.
1147 01:12:26 You've stayed at his home in Palm Beach.
1148 01:12:30 Yes.
1149 01:12:31 So, in 2006, in May,
1150 01:12:35 an arrest warrant was issued for Epstein
1151 01:12:38 for sexual assault of a minor.
1152 01:12:41 Yes.
1153 01:12:42 He was released in July of 2010.
1154 01:12:47 And within months,
1155 01:12:49 you went to stay with himat his New York mansion.
1156 01:12:56 Why?
1157 01:12:57 Why were you stayingwith a convicted sex offender?
1158 01:13:04 Now, I went to see himwith the sole purpose of saying to him
1159 01:13:09 that because he had been convicted,
1160 01:13:15 it was inappropriatethat we should be seen together.
1161 01:13:20 I felt that doing it over the telephonewas the chicken's way of doing it.
1162 01:13:25 I had to go and see him and talk to him.
1163 01:13:28 I went to see him. We had an opportunityto go for a walk in the park,
1164 01:13:31 and that was the... uh, conversation,
1165 01:13:35 coincidentally,
1166 01:13:36 that was photographed.
1167 01:13:39 When I... I said to him, I said,"Look, because of what has... happened,
1168 01:13:47 I don't think it is appropriatefor us to remain in contact."
1169 01:13:53 And by mutual decision,
1170 01:13:55 we agreed to part company, and I left.
1171 01:13:58 He threw a party to celebrate his release,
1172 01:14:03 and you were invited as a guest of honor.
1173 01:14:06 No, I didn't go.
1174 01:14:11 Oh, in 2010.
1175 01:14:13 There... Well, there...There certainly wasn't a... a party
1176 01:14:17 to celebrate his release in... December,because it was only a small dinner party.
1177 01:14:23 There were onlyeight or ten of us at the dinner.
1178 01:14:26 If there was a... a party,
1179 01:14:28 then I know nothing about that.
1180 01:14:29 You were invited to that dinner
1181 01:14:32 as a guest of honor.
1182 01:14:35 I was there, so I was at the dinner.I don't think it was as you might put it,
1183 01:14:39 but, okay, I was there.I was there at a dinner.
1184 01:14:41 I'm just trying to work this out
1185 01:14:43 because you saidyou went to break up the relationship,
1186 01:14:46 and yet you stayedat that New York mansion several days.
1187 01:14:51 I'm wondering how long--
1188 01:14:53 I was doing a numberof other things while I was there.
1189 01:14:55 But you were staying at the houseof a convicted sex offender.
1190 01:14:58 It was a convenient place to stay.
1191 01:15:02 [brooding music plays softly]
1192 01:15:12 So I've spoken to Panorama.
1193 01:15:14 Virginia Roberts says the original photowas printed and date stamped
1194 01:15:17 two days after it was taken,
1195 01:15:19 and we have an affidavitfrom a witness in 2001
1196 01:15:22 who saw the photo at the time.
1197 01:15:25 - Freddy?- Yeah?
1198 01:15:27 Thank you.
1199 01:15:28 Yeah.
1200 01:15:30 [Emily] One of Epstein's accusers,
1201 01:15:33 Virginia Roberts,
1202 01:15:35 made allegations against you.
1203 01:15:39 In a legal deposition,
1204 01:15:42 she said she had sex with you three times.
1205 01:15:48 Once in a London house
1206 01:15:51 when she was trafficked to youin Maxwell's house.
1207 01:15:55 [softly] Uh...
1208 01:15:56 Once... in New York
1209 01:16:00 a month or so later in Epstein's mansion,
1210 01:16:03 and once on his private island,
1211 01:16:07 in a group of seven or eight other girls.
1212 01:16:14 No. [scoffs]
1213 01:16:18 No to all of it?
1214 01:16:19 All of it.
1215 01:16:20 Absolutely no to all of it.
1216 01:16:26 Are you saying you don't believe her?
1217 01:16:30 She's lying?
1218 01:16:36 That's a difficult thingfor me to, um... answer
1219 01:16:40 because I don't know
1220 01:16:44 what she's, um, trying to achieve.
1221 01:16:48 But I can tell you...
1222 01:16:51 uh... categorically,
1223 01:16:54 I don't remember meeting her at all.
1224 01:16:58 I do not remembera photograph being taken,
1225 01:17:02 and I've said,
1226 01:17:04 consistently and, um...
1227 01:17:08 frequently,
1228 01:17:10 that we never hadany sort of sexual contact whatever.
1229 01:17:17 She says she met you in 2001.
1230 01:17:23 She says she dined with you,
1231 01:17:25 danced with you.
1232 01:17:27 You bought her drinks
1233 01:17:29 at Tramp nightclub in London.
1234 01:17:32 There's a number of things wrongwith that story. One of which is that...
1235 01:17:36 I don't know where the bar is in Tramps.
1236 01:17:44 Um...
1237 01:17:46 Um, I don't drink.
1238 01:17:49 Um, I... I don't think I've ever boughta drink in Tramps whenever I was there.
1239 01:17:56 Do you remember dancing with her?
1240 01:17:59 No, that couldn't have happenedbecause on that particular date,
1241 01:18:03 I was, um, at home.I was with the children.
1242 01:18:06 And I had taken Beatriceto a Pizza Express in Woking
1243 01:18:11 for a party, I think...round about 4:00, 5:00 in the afternoon.
1244 01:18:16 Why would you remember thatso specifically?
1245 01:18:21 Because going to Pizza Express in Woking
1246 01:18:26 is an unusual thing for me to do.
1247 01:18:32 A very unusual thing for me to do.
1248 01:18:35 Uh, stop. Um...
1249 01:18:37 Can... Can we?
1250 01:18:39 Please, um, I would like to go back.
1251 01:18:41 I would like to make a...a specific reference to the date.
1252 01:18:45 March the 10th.
1253 01:18:46 I think it's perfectly clear.Do we need that?
1254 01:18:49 I think we're rolling well,don't you, Emily?
1255 01:18:53 - No?- No.
1256 01:18:58 [scoffs]
1257 01:19:03 - She was very specific about that night.- Mm-hmm.
1258 01:19:07 She described dancing with you.
1259 01:19:10 - No.- And you profusely sweating.
1260 01:19:13 [scoffs]
1261 01:19:15 Um, there's a... there's a, um...a slight problem with the sweating.
1262 01:19:20 But... because I have, um,a... peculiar condition,
1263 01:19:24 which is that I don't sweat,or rather I didn't sweat at the time.
1264 01:19:28 And that would, um... Oh, actually...
1265 01:19:30 Yes, I didn't sweat at the time,
1266 01:19:33 and that's because I suffered
1267 01:19:34 what I would describe as an overdoseof adrenaline in the Falklands War
1268 01:19:40 when I was shot at, and I simply, um...
1269 01:19:42 it... it... it was almost impossiblefor me to... to... to sweat.
1270 01:19:53 I wonder
1271 01:19:56 if you have any sense of
1272 01:20:00 guilt, regret, or shame
1273 01:20:06 about any of your behavior
1274 01:20:09 in your friendship with Epstein.
1275 01:20:16 On balance...
1276 01:20:19 could I have avoided... ever meeting him?
1277 01:20:25 Mm...
1278 01:20:26 I don't think so,
1279 01:20:28 and that's because ofmy friendship with Ghislaine.
1280 01:20:34 [sighs through lips] Do I regret the fact
1281 01:20:38 that he's quite obviously, uh,conducted himself in a manner unbecoming...
1282 01:20:44 [Emily] "Unbecoming"?He was a sex offender.
1283 01:20:47 Yes, I'm sorry. I... I was being polite.
1284 01:20:49 I mean, in the sense thathe was a sex offender. But, no, um...
1285 01:20:53 Was I right in having him as a friend?
1286 01:20:58 Um...
1287 01:21:00 At the time,
1288 01:21:02 bearing in mind this was some years beforehe was accused of being a sex offender,
1289 01:21:10 I don't thinkthere was anything wrong... then.
1290 01:21:16 The problem was, after the fact,that after he had been convicted...
1291 01:21:23 - You stayed with him.- I stayed with him.
1292 01:21:25 And that's the bit that, um, as it were,
1293 01:21:28 I kick myself foron a daily basis. [chuckles]
1294 01:21:30 Because that... it was... it was not, um,becoming of a member of the royal family,
1295 01:21:34 and we... we try to upholdthe highest standards and practices,
1296 01:21:39 and I... I let the side down,simple as that.
1297 01:21:53 - [music fades]- [clock ticking]
1298 01:21:59 Is there anythingyou feel has been left unsaid
1299 01:22:05 that you would like to say now?
1300 01:22:10 No, I don't think so.
1301 01:22:13 You probably dragged out of memost of what's required.
1302 01:22:17 [breathes deeply]
1303 01:22:21 [tense music playing]
1304 01:22:22 [camera whirring]
1305 01:22:25 [exhales deeply]
1306 01:22:26 I'm gonna go.
1307 01:22:29 I have a biker downstairs.The memory cards. Both copies...
1308 01:22:32 Now, would you all like a tour?
1309 01:22:34 Some stills?
1310 01:22:36 Ah. Yes, of course. Um...Tell you what, two birds, one stone.
1311 01:22:39 You take your snapswhile I show Emily around.
1312 01:22:42 [unsettling music intensifies]
1313 01:22:46 [soundscape distorts eerily]
1314 01:23:00 [distorted] Wasn't he wonderful?
1315 01:23:04 [softly] Wonderful.
1316 01:23:09 [music fades]
1317 01:23:10 [sighs]
1318 01:23:11 [tense music builds]
1319 01:23:24 - [chattering indistinctly]- [camera clicks]
1320 01:23:35 [music fades out]
1321 01:23:37 You know, I thoughtthat all went very well.
1322 01:23:41 Like a walk in the park.
1323 01:23:49 [pensive music plays]
1324 01:23:55 [clattering]
1325 01:23:59 Expecting a car, madam?
1326 01:24:00 Uh... Uh, no. Thank you.
1327 01:24:03 Um... I think I'm going to walk.
1328 01:24:05 But thank you.
1329 01:24:18 - I think I might be sick.- [both chuckle]
1330 01:24:45 Emily. That was...
1331 01:24:46 [breathes deeply]
1332 01:24:49 That was him... right there. You did it.
1333 01:24:54 We did it.
1334 01:24:57 Thanks, Sammy.
1335 01:25:01 [pensive music continues]
1336 01:25:09 [Stewart] How are we doing?
1337 01:25:10 Twitter teasers are nearly ready.When do we go live?
1338 01:25:12 [Stewart] I'm gonna talkto the DG about that now.
1339 01:25:22 [chuckles softly]
1340 01:25:24 She had her man in the room when you shotthe interview. He recorded it. Yes?
1341 01:25:29 Could she stop it going out, Tony?
1342 01:25:30 Well, she is the Queen.I mean, I'd have to take the call.
1343 01:25:34 We want to trail it on Friday nightafter the show, live.
1344 01:25:37 With Emily?
1345 01:25:38 Of course.With teasers on socials afterwards.
1346 01:25:41 [Tony] I'll tell the Palacewe're broadcasting on Saturday night.
1347 01:25:44 Wait for me to get back to you.
1348 01:25:51 [doors opening]
1349 01:26:00 How long?
1350 01:26:01 Fifteen minutes.
1351 01:26:03 [Emily] I guess no news is good news.
1352 01:26:06 Oh...
1353 01:26:11 - Tony?- Esme, hi.
1354 01:26:16 Pull the trigger. We're on.
1355 01:26:20 Tomorrow night,in a Newsnight special program,
1356 01:26:23 we will hear for the first timefrom the duke himself.
1357 01:26:29 In an unprecedented interview,
1358 01:26:31 he speaks to us at lengthabout his friendship with Epstein
1359 01:26:36 and the claims made against him.
1360 01:26:39 Prince Andrew, the Duke of York,
1361 01:26:43 has long faced questions about his tiesto the financier Jeffrey Epstein,
1362 01:26:48 who took his life earlier this year
1363 01:26:51 while awaiting trial on sex...
1364 01:26:53 [gentle anticipative music builds slowly]
1365 01:26:55 [notification alerts chime faintly]
1366 01:27:07 [phone buzzes]
1367 01:27:36 [music trails off]
1368 01:27:47 - Where does this bloody dust come from?- I know, sir.
1369 01:27:53 [elevator dings]
1370 01:27:55 [Amanda] "For the prince, the wholenerve-shredding exercise is designed
1371 01:27:59 to show that he has nothing to hide."
1372 01:28:02 "It will show that he has beenwholly honest and truthful."
1373 01:28:07 "'In a way,' says a friend,'he is saying, "Judge me.""
1374 01:28:15 It's... It's excellent, isn't it?
1375 01:28:17 Huh.
1376 01:28:19 It's... It's exactly the right tone.
1377 01:28:21 - [sighs]- Very good.
1378 01:28:24 Would you...Would you like me to be here tonight
1379 01:28:27 when it... goes out?
1380 01:28:30 Oh, no, I don't think so.
1381 01:28:32 No, I really don't think that's necessary.
1382 01:28:39 [positive music playing]
1383 01:28:40 - [door opens]- [Sam's mum] Hello!
1384 01:28:42 Nana, this is Freya.
1385 01:28:43 - Hello. Come in. Come in.- Freya, this is Netta.
1386 01:28:46 Hello.
1387 01:28:48 [kissing]
1388 01:28:54 [jingle playing on TV]
1389 01:29:06 [grunts softly]
1390 01:29:09 Um, in... In fact, I'm convinced
1391 01:29:12 that I was never in Tramps with her.
1392 01:29:16 There's a number of things wrongwith that story. One of which is that...
1393 01:29:19 I don't know where the bar is.
1394 01:29:27 [notifications whirring rapidly]
1395 01:29:31 I have a, um... a peculiar condition,which is that I don't sweat,
1396 01:29:37 or rather I didn't sweat at the time.And that would...
1397 01:29:40 and that is because I had suffered
1398 01:29:42 what I would describe as an overdoseof adrenaline in the Falklands War.
1399 01:29:47 Because going to Pizza Express in Woking
1400 01:29:52 is an unusual thing for me to do.
1401 01:29:55 A very unusual thing for me to do.
1402 01:30:03 [Emily] So, if Virginia Robertsis watching this interview,
1403 01:30:08 what's your message to her?
1404 01:30:14 I don't have a message for her
1405 01:30:16 because I have to have...
1406 01:30:19 She gives him every chance.
1407 01:30:21 And if somebody's going to makethese sorts of allegations...
1408 01:30:24 [notification alerts chiming]
1409 01:30:27 [Andrew] We try and upholdthe highest standards and practices,
1410 01:30:32 and, um, I let the side down,simple as that.
1411 01:30:36 Christ's sake.
1412 01:30:42 [phone chiming, vibrating]
1413 01:30:43 [Emily] ...you feel you'd like to say...
1414 01:30:46 that has been left unsaid?
1415 01:30:48 [notification alerts chiming]
1416 01:30:51 [Andrew] No, I don't think so.
1417 01:30:53 You probably dragged out of memost of what's required.
1418 01:31:01 [pensive music builds slowly]
1419 01:31:08 [Lucas] We're gonna sit up front, Mum.
1420 01:31:59 [music fades out]
1421 01:32:01 [clock ticking]
1422 01:32:12 [footsteps approaching]
1423 01:32:15 Your Royal Highness.
1424 01:32:19 [Andrew] Mm.
1425 01:32:26 [gentle music plays softly]
1426 01:32:30 [clicking, whirring]
1427 01:32:35 - [cameras clicking]- [man 1] Amanda!
1428 01:32:36 [man 2] Amanda, a quick statement.
1429 01:32:38 [all clamoring]
1430 01:32:39 [indistinct overlapping shouting]
1431 01:32:46 Would you like to comment?
1432 01:32:47 [clicking, whirring]
1433 01:33:04 The Palace have just releaseda statement from the Duke of York.
1434 01:33:08 "I have asked Her Majestyif I may step back
1435 01:33:12 from public dutiesfor the foreseeable future,
1436 01:33:14 and she has given me her permission."
1437 01:33:19 "I continue to unequivocally regret
1438 01:33:21 my ill-judged associationwith Jeffrey Epstein."
1439 01:33:24 "His suicide has leftmany unanswered questions,
1440 01:33:27 particularly for his victims."
1441 01:33:31 "I can only hope that in time,they will be able to rebuild their lives."
1442 01:33:41 This is what Newsnight is.
1443 01:33:43 We put the time in...to get the stories other shows won't.
1444 01:33:49 Stories that need to be told,
1445 01:33:52 that people care about,
1446 01:33:54 hold the powerful to account
1447 01:33:56 and give victims a voice.
1448 01:33:58 [all clapping]
1449 01:34:02 Thank you.
1450 01:34:03 [chuckles softly]
1451 01:34:10 [indistinct overlapping chatter]
1452 01:34:46 Two lamb shawarma.
1453 01:34:47 The usual.
1454 01:34:48 Thanks. [chuckles]
1455 01:34:49 You seen this?Love to be there when they filmed that!
1456 01:34:57 Yeah, I did. I saw it.
1457 01:35:01 - Thanks.- Bye.
1458 01:35:05 [energetic pensive music playing]
1459 01:36:03 [pulsing pensive music builds]
1460 01:39:57 [energetic music plays]
1461 01:40:32 [music trails off]